Burlington Sounds - Taylor Friss & Casey Culp

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What's new 802? I'm Becca Hammond and you're listening to Vermont Talks. Vermont Talks may include graphic or explicit content. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to Vermont Talks. It is the 67th episode on April 27th, which is a Monday, and we're hanging out at Pingala, which is amazing. This makes me very happy that I can do these kind of things. I'm here today with the Burlington Sounds guys and yeah. And Burlington Sounds is Taylor Friss and Casey Culp. And it is a vinyl compilation featuring artists from across Burlington's music scene. And the first anticipated release date is late summer or early fall of this year. Welcome. Thank you. Welcome. Excited to be here. So we were talking just a little bit, just a little background. So Taylor, you are from? From New Jersey. And when did you move here? I moved here about two and a half years ago. And Casey? I'm from Virginia. I moved here around three, two and a half years ago. Same time. Yeah. I moved from Denver though. Cool. Yeah. Very cool. Much cooler place. Yes. Yes. Okay. So. Burlington's better. 100%. I agree. Best. So I love the concept of Burlington Sounds. And as soon as you came out with this idea, it seems like all the bands in town were like, yes, we want this. So how did you come up with the idea and put together this concept? Because this is fairly new, right? It's just been a few months. Yeah, it's just been a few months. How we came up with it, I don't really know exactly. We're both huge into music. Casey plays mandolin, I play guitar and bass. And we love the music scene here. I think that's part of the reason, one of the reasons why we love it so much here. And every time I go to a show, I'm just fascinated about how much talent there is and energy there is in the music scene. And was really just trying to think of a way to promote it, right? How do we promote these musicians within the Burlington area so that people listen to them more or go out to shows and support them? And then how do we reach people beyond the Burlington area, whether it be in Boston or Montreal, so that they hear what an amazing scene we have and come to visit and see a show or just listen on their own? And probably about a year ago, I got a record player. I was holding off for a while, because I knew it was probably a bad idea because I would just buy tons of vinyl. Yes, it is a massive rabbit hole. Yeah, it's a huge rabbit hole. But every time I would go into a record store, looking through the records, having a good time as a partner, it's like you should get a record player. And so I finally did. And then, yeah, I think I was just listening to a lot of records and was like, what if we put all these Burlington musicians on a record? And I think it's a really great way to celebrate the scene and promote their music. Because especially when you buy a record, you're thinking that you're going to listen through the whole thing. It's a different experience. And so I think it'll be a great way to highlight the musicians and the music that you're putting out. Yeah, it's definitely an idea that kind of faded when CDs stopped being a thing. The anthology systems where they would find the coolest tracks, right, and then turn them into the now CDs that had what 100 different nows, but they just don't exist anymore. I know there's individual soundtracks and playlists and that kind of thing in the digital world, but we're kind of lacking on, hey, I bought this, this has 12 songs. And let's explore. It has the art and the references and all that cool thing, stuff that comes with a handheld piece of music. 100%. And we've learned, I love CDs too. I think the sound quality is incredible and stuff, but it's also easier. What we've learned with the vinyl is it's hard to maximize the amount of songs that you have on it, but put it in an order that works for vinyl and get songs that will work on vinyl from a sound perspective. With the length of the vinyl record, you can barely scratch the surface of what is in the Burlington Music State. Yeah, Casey's been diving deep. I think I've listened to over 100 local bands at this point spinning around my living room and enjoying life. Yeah, so we're hoping, we're calling it Volume 1 because we're hoping to do future versions where we can feature more of the musicians, dig into different genres and stuff. But yeah, it's been a lot of fun so far. Yeah, there's a lot of creativity around just putting together, even though the songs are done, trying to get them to fit on a piece of analog. CDs are amazing now. You can buy a CD that has so much memory on it. You can put something like seven songs. I think CDs are going to have a comeback. Yeah, I do too. I honestly do. I think because you could put the entire discography of a band on a single CD now. How long is a side on vinyl? It's not very long. No, it's a great question. So we've been learning a lot about how vinyl works. If you want really good sound quality, you're probably working around 18 minutes. And then 18 to 22 minutes, there might be some degradation in sound with volume or bass, but it still sounds pretty good. And then above 22 minutes, that's where you're starting to make some significant trade-offs with volume and bass and stuff like that. So we're aiming for under 22 minutes so that we still are able to represent a lot of musicians but can keep a solid sound quality. Right. That's where it becomes almost like jenga, right? You're like, ah, this song's three minutes and two seconds. How can we make this fit? And it's interesting too. I love music, so I find this stuff interesting. It might be boring to others, but there are also different strategies around how you order the songs based on the sound quality. So songs at the end of a side have less room because the circles are closer together, so you can't basically carve them as wide. Somebody else might know more about this than we're totally wrong, but so that's been really interesting. Somebody was telling me that fish has worked with really highly technical record pressers and they're able to fit 30 minutes on a side, and it sounds amazing. So there are all sorts of things you can do. I have always wondered, because with fish it's probably like one song aside. We're going to fit this whole song. That's the other thing. So many of these bands here have really great, really long songs, and it's just like if we put this on, it really kind of just like forks me to over the side. We're hoping one day to do like Burlington's Down Selects, do like a triple LP, and just put all the long songs on it. That's actually a really cool idea. I love the double albums. That was another discussion we had at one point. It was doing just doing a double right away, but I think it's cool to have separate ones over time. Right. And you can get your feet wet and see how this one goes. Because people are excited about it, which is one of the, okay, one of the questions I actually wrote down. How did you pick the bands? I know they must have reached out to you. Was there, was this a lottery at a certain point? Like how did you figure out what made sense? Yeah, it's a great question. I think a really important one too, because there are so many incredible musicians, and we want to make sure that they're represented. And fully transparently, like, I'm a pretty spontaneous person. Like I get an idea and I just want to run with it. And at the beginning, I wasn't sure whether people would want to participate. Like I know there are artists who are sensitive about how their music is represented and might not want to throw it on this big compilation. So I was kind of testing the waters to see what the interest was. I reached out to a bunch of musicians that I like in the scene. And so, and some responded were super enthusiastic, or like, yes, I want to be on this, some didn't respond at all. Some were like, who are you? What is this? Like, what's going on here? And so from that initial pool, we picked some people who said yes, and were willing to participate, quickly realized it was skewing toward my preferences of music, and maybe not representative of the full Burlington scene. So from there, we made a post on Instagram asking people to recommend bands. And we went through those. Casey's been listening nonstop to local bands. And we've been putting it at 4am on accident. Yeah, yeah, clicking different Instagram links. So we've been putting together playlists and figuring out what genres are missing and reached out to some bands based on that. But that's pretty much how it came to be. I think in the future, we'll probably take a more thoughtful approach to it. But we're really excited with all the musicians that we have and think of it's a great representation of the scene. Yeah, that's awesome that you're that you had the willingness to say, Hey, maybe we should get genre. Yes, because I wasn't sure if you were doing like a rock album first or like, Oh, these guys are all jazz, we're going to put them all together. Yeah, and it's we thought a lot about that. Because initially, I was thinking maybe more mellow stuff like folk and jazz and just kind of a very like easy listening type of album. Because that's when I put on a vinyl record, that's a lot of what I listened to it's at the end of the day. And I just want to put on something soothing. But then I we were finding all these other bands that were just too cool, not to make a compilation from. And it's really neat hearing just totally different genres back to back. Yes, sometimes it can be a bit jarring. But that contrast creates really energizing moments. And so it's been really fun to play around with it. Yes, you know, we can traverse across genres pretty much anytime we make a change to the order yet we like listen through it all again to try to figure out what fits. But maybe in the future, we'll do like certain genres, like I think it would be really cool to do like a folk side and then a punk side. So that you know, if you're in the mood for something relaxing, you put that on. And then if you're in the mood for something more energizing. So I think there's a lot we can do with it. But we're excited to have a good mix. For the first one, I think it's good to have a sampler. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I love the idea. Like there's so many ideas that you could put together for this. And you basically have like this unlimited supply of really cool music. That's a thing we're just putting it together. But there's the you know, the musicians are little ones doing the work here. Right. That's awesome. This is so cool. I'm excited to see this and hear it when it comes out. And this is an aside that wasn't written down. But who do you have you picked out a presser? And where are they located? I have to ask this because I actually interviewed the guy from the Burlington record plant. RIP moved to New York. So they are the ones who will be pressing the records. I reached out to him. He was super excited because they were in Burlington for a while and he was connected to the scene. They do great work. So we'll be working with them for the pressing and then Tank Recording Studio, Julia over there is doing the mastering for the song. So you have to master them specifically for vinyl. So I mean, that's one of the amazing parts of this project is like, not only are they great musicians, there's a just incredible ecosystem for recording music, for getting a master for putting it out. Great creative scene for all of the assets and artwork and stuff like that. So it's been neat to be able to build this project. You know, Burlington Record Pressing is now in Albany. It's still like all local. We still claim them. Exactly. Their names are on the record too. So I think that counts. That's really cool. I will say, and I'm spacing on his name, wonderful guy, incredible attention to detail. They would sit there and listen to every single pressing. And if there was the second, the slightest anything off, they'd put it in there like their secondary pile. So even if it was perfectly listenable, if something was slightly off, even like the coloring, they were like, nope, this one's not for sale. We're going to put this in a different pile. And he actually gave me a huge stack of vinyl that was like B cuts. So here you like this, you like metal, here you go. And I just walk out. Incredible. They must have like a whole archive of. So cool. I should, I should look it up and send you the pictures because the whole space was covered in vinyl because he literally would take the B cuts and just be like, so cool. Put them on the wall. We'll have to, we'll have to pick up the records. They don't mail them. So right. That'd be really cool. It's cool to hear that you guys found them. Yeah. That's so cool. Awesome. Okay. So there was another question that I thought you wrote down that I thought was really interesting. The other compilations like this in the past, I, this makes total sense. This exists. I have never heard of any of these except for Big Heavy World. So please, if you know the history, I'm curious. Yeah, I don't, there are a lot like surprisingly, when I looked into this, there are a lot of Vermont compilations. There was one called, I'm not getting what it was, but it was for like the quadrucentennial called Drop Pears and Thru Stones. And it's music from Vermont's first 400 years. I haven't listened to it. It's a little intimidating. I don't know what's on it, but our friends found a record from, I want to say it's from the 60s and one of the local stores that was a lot of classical music from around here. I know Burlington does Burlington is a really cool compilation that's worth checking out. I think they did one in the 90s and one recently. It's all Burlington musicians covering other Burlington musicians. So it'll be like Robert Robert covering references or something. That's so Vermontese Burlington life. And they recorded it all and they put it all like it's a really neat project. I think they may have done one recently too and maybe a little festival around it. And then yeah, Big Heavy World has done a bunch. I think they did a lot of like a lot of punk CDs that they were putting out. And I recently found their website. It's an incredible resource. They have a whole Vermont Music Library and I'll have to get connected with them at some point. Yeah, yeah. See, I can put you in touch with some of those guys and we'll see what they want to do because I also want to help make Big Heavy live. Just keep something alive even if it's in a big heavy. It would be nice to keep some of that going because the actual archive of their thousands and thousands of CDs is actually in the National Library of Congress. Yeah, Jim Lockridge went down to the Library of Congress and like handed off the Vermont like audio history. So there's a lot of love for that. I know a lot of the bands are really, really emotionally connected to that place. So yes, lots of love for this scene. There's a lot of collaboration always at Burlington when it comes to music. So back to your vinyl. What kind of artwork do you guys, did you bring different artists in? Did you get thoughts from the bands? Is this still in progress? It's still in progress. So we're trying to finalize the track list first, which were like 99% of the way there. And then that'll probably inform what the artwork is going to look like. I don't know if I trust that 99% Taylor texted me every day. I don't know man, should we do this? Yeah, it changes quite a bit. So that's the main focus because then we can send it to get pressed and then we'll work on our work and have someone go do that. Oh yeah, once you have the plan together, I'm sure the artist makes something really interesting with something so eclectic. 100%. I tried to make one myself and it was very nice, but it was quite boring. He didn't fully represent. So we're going back to the drawing board. Yeah, if you need tips, the Odd Fellows have a zillion artists that are part of the Odd Fellows are related and whatever style you feel like and you just suggest it and they'll be like, this is the person to ask, which is awesome. I just love the the collab between the musicians and the artists of Burlington. The creative scene here is unbelievable. So cool. They come up with such interesting things when given like here's your sonic reference. Like let's see what you create with it. So great ball. And trying to think of all the intricacies around vinyl because vinyl is not cheap. Like doing this up front. This is a big undertaking for you guys because even for a band to get 100 vinyl printings done, that's not cheap endeavor. Is this something you guys were like, oh, we're going to have like a collaborative group and your band can put one in or are you guys like funding this yourself and then just hopefully the community will come together and support later? Yeah, it's a good question. So we initially the idea was to do to crowdfund it, right? And do you like a go fund me or something like that? And then when I started reaching out to musicians like the quality of musicians that are on this record are unbelievable. And the response from the community has been really great. And if we did went the crowdfunding route, it probably would have just taken longer. Like this process is already pretty long. It's going to take like three or four months to press and stuff like that. So we're going to fund it ourselves. And just hope that there's support out there for it. And it seems like there will be. And we're super excited about it. Like, we have dreams to do other volumes and like turn this into something bigger. But even if we can just put out one, I think we're both super excited to be able to do that. Have you talked to the record shops yet? There's so many record shops now where I would, I would bet they'd be happy to put your vinyl on display and say, Hey, this is this is a collab piece of all of these Vermont musicians. I can see them putting that, you know, just a little more effort into just sticking it on the shelf for you guys. If you pose it as, hey, this is, well, however many bands, I don't know how many bands you're looking at for it, but I can see that. Yeah, we've been talking, and that's, there are so many, I mean, that's part of what made us realize that there is support for this project too, is the number of record stores that are out there. Like even within Burlington, we have a bunch of Burlington records and speaking volumes and Pure Pop and the list goes on. Even here at Pingala, they're selling records. Yes, mine's blown. The dab is in there. We just take the Burlington Sounds record. We get on the wall. Just wallpaper, the Burlington Sounds record. So yeah, we've been talking to them, and they've been super helpful too. Like, I've been talking to some of the stores about what types of things get attention on records. Records are like, it's kind of like the sneaker industry, where there are all these little things that collectors look out for and different things you can, like you can number the records or there are different types of like cardboard wrappings. I forget what they're called. Oh, the slaves and the inserts. Yes, sleeves and inserts and all sorts of stuff, hype stickers. So yeah, they've been super supportive, and it's been cool also just going to explore the different record stores, like going to Mount Pilier, Bush Speeler Records. I don't know if you've been there, but that's a super cool thing. There are a few in Burry that have been around since like the 70s and 80s. Oh, that's cool. They managed to survive the lull. They said it was rough, but they said they bought a ton of records during the lull. And now they're wearing something. Yeah, now everyone's buying them again. Exactly. So funny. Yeah, I just heard one of the Hackney Brothers is taking over a record shop in town. Yeah, I think it's speaking volumes. Yeah, that's awesome. That's so cool. And there's so many little shops that are like the ones in the basements and the ones tucked in the third story of like whatever, yeah, boutique, they're, yeah. And then you walk in and there's like thousands of albums and you're overwhelmed. So there, that's it. One of the places to sell this, plus every band I'm sure who's involved is going to put it on their merch table and be like, hey. Yeah, that's what we're hoping as well. I think that'll be a good opportunity. And it's cool because a lot of bands don't have their own vinyls. Like you mentioned, it takes a lot to put out a vinyl record. And so some of the people were talking to her like, I would just love to hear myself on vinyl. Right. It'll be really cool. Yeah, and I see that collaborative nature of this where not only are they supporting themselves, hey, buy my vinyl. They might find a new band. Yeah. Whoever buys it might find a new band that they haven't listened to and be like, wow, I need to go to their shoe. I would say, I don't know about for you, Casey, but for me, I don't think I listened to about 75% of the bands on this record before we put it together. And now there's some of my favorite bands. Yeah. Yeah, my taste is becoming like solely local. It's like continued exposure of listening to the same song and like having like different opinions of it throughout. It's amazing what is there that's local. They so far from like the pop music scene. I won't go on a whole ring here, but the pop music scene is so depressing in so many ways. It's so like capitalized and conformalized and like it's just boring. There's a point where everything just got boring on the top 100 stations. And the second anyone does anything interesting, they all steal it. Yeah. They all sell the same thing. It doesn't work. Vermont just don't tend to do that quite as bad. Like sure, we might jump on trends, but not the same. You can't listen to 20 different Burlington bands and be like, oh, yeah, these are obviously Burlington. Right. And we're going to need one of the things I was thinking is to put the genre of each band next to their name on the back of the record. So when you're buying the record, you kind of know. And then I was thinking, what genre? You can't do it. The front of me, like some of them fit into a category, but the other a lot of them don't. So maybe we'll put some fun names that allude to what they might be. But right, you can make up your own genre. Exactly. Have a fun little description or what it may well put what it feels like to listen to it. Ooh, I love that idea. I'm sending some of those to Taylor. He's having some good ideas. It's like being on mushrooms and misty green mountains. I'm like that now. There's so many ways to this. I always thought it was funny when someone throw a band it was somebody came on my show and they referred to themselves as like crunchy something. But like it was like a food. The flavor of the band. Never thought about it. But yeah. Taylor and I started a sort of new non-existent band. And I was thinking about the genre. I'm like this is music to fetch balls to farmers market jams. That is great. Yes, that's a real that is an actual Vermont genre. I've heard it before. That's totally a Vermont genre. You heard it here first. Yes, several bands that are from a farmers market. Well, so how many do you think I know you're still planning? How many do you think we're going to end up on the first release? Should we count? About 14. Yes, about 13 or 14. We're fitting quite a few. Some of them have short songs that are really awesome and we're like we're going to put this one on and even the short ones we feel like represent the bands well. And so we'll be able to do that. We're also hoping to squeeze in like a little intro and outro maybe. Oh, the voice actor and throwing some unique things throughout. So yeah, I think we'll get a good number of bands on there. Cool. Voice actors are interesting. That's one of those things I forget exists. For Bromlington has a couple of these guys that sound like movie. Yeah. Oh, I can't do it. But you know the very dramatic lip deep voice. Awesome. Yeah. And that's the thing with vinyl. Like I mentioned before, like when you put on a record, there's no skipping songs and like so we might take. Take some artistic freedom and you know, add some fun stuff to it that I think people enjoy that'll make it different from just another album. Yes, I think you should definitely do that. The ginger in this smoothie is suddenly attacking me. Realizing it wasn't a good choice. Yeah, shout out to Pingala. I think I might have mentioned that but shout out to Pingala and our very good smoothies. I'm glad to hang out here. Now, Taylor was talking to me about this project and I was like, oh, this is like cool and fun. Like I want to help with this. And I was also one of the only people that was listening to him perseverate. He's been a life seeker. And then I didn't realize like how important this is when you come. Like it's still fun, of course, but it's like, oh, people like caring about this. Yeah, people are really into it. That's the amount of followers you guys suddenly like had 500 plus. I don't know what you're at right now, but I was like, wow, clearly the bands are stoked about this. Yeah, and that's when originally it started as kind of a fun project. And I figured let me just put musicians. And then I was like, wait, this should represent the Burlington scene. Just people are actually following you and stuff. But Casey's been a life saver. And I've talked to some musicians about this, but like sequencing an album and choosing songs from an album. You have to listen to those same songs over and over and over and over again. And if it was just me doing it, I mean, I'm already going a little crazy about it. But it's been really awesome that I'm a partner in this project. He loves music as much as I do and wants to, you know, put it out into the world. You always start second guessing yourself after that 20 and listen through. It's time someone to like bounce egg. 100%. Do you actually like this? Is it just me? Is this cool? Am I losing it? Exactly. 100%. And it's also made me realize something about the musicians is like, for me, it's, it's, I don't know, putting art out into the world isn't as easy as I thought it would be. Like it's one thing to make art at home and, but then to actually put it out to have others listen to and critique or enjoy or whatever it might be is a whole another thing. So definitely kudos to all the musicians here and all artists are constantly putting out work that they're passionate about. And it's been a big learning from this project is that it's not easy to do. There's just like a huge level of like a vulnerability. You have to accept that. 100%. And I bet you guys feel like you have to do it right for the bands, right? Because they're all kind of like relying on you like, oh, you're going to pull this off. It's going to be awesome. Yep. 100%. Fortunately, none of the bands have been super picky about like asking about what other bands are on or making sure they're in a certain order, which has been really nice. I guess they trust us for some reason. I think I'll do a good job. I'm sure they're just champ. DJ champ. Yeah, that's the thing. DJ champ is responsible for everything. He's the one doing the work. We're just talking for him. I'm sure the bands are just happy to be involved. Oh yeah, I got in at the ground floor. I'm happy right now because that's it. You have the potential to have something really cool that people are actively like fighting over in a couple of years. And I can see that because the Burlington bands, just looking at what happened at the Stone Church down in Brattleboro, I think that is, you can't play. Like the bands literally can't get into play there. So it's almost like this like, no, how'd you get in? That's awesome. And with something like this, it's so limited. So, I think you have real potential there, especially with the amount of interest that you already have. Yeah, and the depth of music here too. And I think that might one way we might be able to do it in the future is having those genres specific sides. Yeah, that's just like, maybe we're going to focus on this genre or whatever it might be. That might make it a little easier to pick into these little... We'll see. So I just see what the future holds. I hope this goes on the episode. This is a smoothie break. Yeah, repause of the smoothie break. DJ champ. Stop with the quiet. DJs are practicing a scratching. And if anyone knows that a DJ around here can give them some lessons, hit us up. There's so many DJs too. I got overwhelmed with the amount of musicians in this just Burlington, not even the whole state. Like, what do you mean there's 25 DJs that are like, yeah, we're spinning it, whatever club. I'm like, you exist. I was sending some Vermont electronic music to like just some friends that don't live here. And they're all just like, Vermont EDM is where the spaceship landed. And stuff is wild. That is awesome. It's so crazy. Can you name drop a couple of EDM artists from Vermont? Because I literally don't know. I've had a couple odd ones that was like, if you actually play out and they're like, no. Okay, who actually plays out in EDM scene? I didn't really want to be named. Roost World is a great person. Roost World are kind of the big ones. I love DJ Taka. I don't know if people know him around here. I don't know if he has his own original music, but like. I don't think he does. Maybe he does. DJ Taka, if you're listening, let us know. Let us know. Now that guy, actually I don't know if that person is very famous though. That's one of very few. I've been playing radio being like every Friday for like 25 years. It's amazing. And he's always awesome. But that's the thing. I think part of this project is we hope you discover like some musician that maybe you've seen on a lineup somewhere at some venue you go to, but because you didn't know them, you didn't go check it out. I think it's worth just one, hopefully you find a musician here who you go out and see because you like them, but also just encourage people to go out to a venue, go out to Monkey House, go out to radio being on a night you don't know who the musicians are. And you're probably going to find something really cool, which is part of what's awesome about the scene. Yeah, there's a lot of that. There's so many things happening every weekend. You also have to like pick and choose. And I get in those moments from like, do I go see this band or do I go see this band like really hard lineup choices? It's a tough life we live. It is. It actually is when there's enough good local bands to have those moments. Yeah, I love local music. Our scene here is so cool. So many cities I hear these and people with weird attitude about local musicians. Like, have you ever been to a local show and they'll go, no. Like, how can you have attitude if you've never been to a local show? Like they'll only come out higher ground if it's a famous person. I'm like, well, we don't get any famous people. Yeah. DJ Champ again. Scratching all the records. Okay, so, let's see. Very bad if I knocked your smoothie over. What else do you need to talk about? Oh, events surrounding the release. I have to say this one in a second. I'm really curious how much I can cut out of this. We'll see. I think the listeners will like it. This is a vibe. Very pleasant. We can put a beat over it or something. And some noise music. It's like us mixing the tracks. Exactly. We're mixing the smoothies. Okay, so are there going to be any events surrounding the release? Yeah, so we don't have anything planned. We've been talking to some different venues though. We would love to do an album release party. Hopefully have some of the bands playing. Then also probably some like listening sessions. I know there's Doma, which is the vinyl bar in the south end. That's a really cool space. I think it would just be neat to play the record, have people listen. More on that to come, but I'm hoping to do some events around it. Nice. Yeah, there's a couple. I've heard of other vinyl listening events where they literally said like bring your own vinyl. Yeah, so Doma every Thursday is a BYOV. And I haven't been yet, but I'm going to go and play Burlington Sounds there every week. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, just kidding. I'll bring some fun stuff. What was the other? I could just be putting my foot in my mouth. I could have sworn there was another place that also did vinyl. Oh, there definitely might be, yeah. Yeah, they may have just gone out. That's it. It's hard to keep track sometimes. Yeah, Doma used to be called something else. So you got new owners recently. But there are some other places that do it as well, yeah. Right. They had like curated listening events. They were like, we're going to play three albums with this wine. Was it, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I don't know. Is it LePrize or that might have replaced the original one? It was another wine bar that I really like and I can't forget the name of it. That's okay. That's it. It was put on by an organization that is like an organization for people who like to listen to quiet music. And if it's the same event that you saw, there's also like a synthesizer society around here too that puts on some of those events. There's like some really neat stuff here that you dig into. There's a lot to explore. Yeah, the electronic music scene always blows my mind. There's so many things that are plugged into other things on some of those setups. It's like a full eight by 10 table of things. I don't know what any of these are. And I'm like in the music scene. I have no idea what's happening. There's little loops out. Those guys are awesome. That's it. I feel like you could make half an album of every single genre in the world. Oh yeah. Easily 22 minutes. For sure. We've got that in Berlin. Yeah. There's some serious stuff. Even just like jazz. You could probably do a full album of jazz that is just local like purely Burlington, which is amazing. And jazz. I feel like other places of this size, there might not even be 14 bands. But I'm sure there's 14 bands that are active in performing like they are here. Oh, that's actually true. It's kind of the same with our food in Burlington. I would like that. Like we have so many different cuisine types from all over the world. You go across the border to Blattsburg. They're like we have Chinese food and sandwiches. And that's pretty much like the whole food scene. There's really not a whole lot going on. And same time in like Rutland. Rutland's a pretty big city. Yeah. My sister lives down there and she's like we have two places. We have Chinese food and there was like a Thai house. And I'm like, and that is it. You don't expect anything. Same with genres and music flavors. Yep. Comparing them to the food scene for whatever reason, we are a culture of. Okay. Anything. Oh, where will people be able to get the record? I think we kind of talked about this, but if there's any specifics. Yeah, no specifics to add. I think we're going to try to get into a lot of the local record stores. You'll also be able to purchase it online. Hopefully some of the bands will be selling them at their merch table or some venues. Yes, you actually have a whole website, BurlingtonSounds.com and a newsletter. I wanted to call that out. Are you planning on selling off of your site with like a commerce store? Yeah. So we'll probably sell off of the site as well. So that people who are not in the Burlington area can purchase it. And yeah, if you want, you can sign up on the website, put your email in and we'll send you updates. Instagram too. We're posting a bunch of updates there. Maybe one day we'll start a TikTok. Sorry, DJ Champ will start a TikTok. But yeah, definitely. I haven't even thought about like shipping out all of these if we got to ship them. Yeah, we're going to have to ship them. How are we going to do that? I don't know. If anyone wants to help out on this project, whether it be shipping or artwork or whatever it might be. Our houses are just going to be like full of records. I don't mind having 500 records. That was a big FedEx day. Yeah, and hopefully we'll do like a party for everyone involved in the project. I think that'll be fun because there's a lot of work going into it. So I think it'll be good to celebrate. Awesome. End of summer, early fall. Perfect time to have a release party. Wherever it is. Best time in Vermont to be honest. It is not too hot. Dry. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. It's not too hot and dry. Awesome. Awesome. I don't really have any other questions, but if there's anything else that you guys wanted to discuss or any thoughts on before we call it. No, I mean just thank you everyone for all the interest in the project. If you all have questions, definitely reach out. This community has been incredible. We've been learning so much about all the people around everyone that, you know, we've been giving out flyers and stuff and everybody I've met has been super supportive. So we're really excited for this and hope you all learn too. I think we are. Awesome. Okay. Your email. Is it okay if I use your made one you put that Taylor at BurlingtonSounds.com. If you want to get in touch or just go to BurlingtonSounds.com and join the newsletter. I highly recommend. All of this is going to be linked along with the transcript today at BurmontTalks.com forward slash 67 and that'll get you over to the BurlingtonSounds pages, their Instagram, everything will be on there. And I think that's pretty much it. Thank you Taylor. Thank you Casey. This has been a really fun interview. I'm really excited for this project to come out. Thank you so much. Thanks so much for listening to the end of the show. Subscribe to VermontTalks on your favorite podcasting platform. 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